Business as usual. They are continuing to encourage each other..."just hold on, baby hold on, its closer than you think, and we're standing on the brink" sounds like a Kansas tune to me.
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for those still "in" what's the mood
by lastchance inin my area the general sense is bleak.
many are in survival mode.
even at the convention the appearance of the majority was unhappy and tired.
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Said from the platform: "You are not surviving Armaggedon if you are spiritually weak"
by Daniel1555 intoday i was at the meeting (i go there about once a month now).
in the service meeting they had a part where they interviewed the secretary of the congregation.. so one question was: "why are the service reports so important?".
our secretary explained that the reports are important, because the elders can see, who is spiritually weak.
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Judge and jury all in one. Sounds like this guy needs to be a CO!
As a witness, this statement is incontrovertable. Spiritual activity=salvation. No one will argue with that. First, however, you have to believe that Armaggedon is coming...if it does, we will see what it takes to survive. I have a strange feeling that if it comes most JW's will be destroyed along with everyone else for worshipping the ORG, oh excuse me, JW.ORG.
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Is the Bible just as fake as the JW's
by BackSlider init seems that the more i research, the more i find that it's all just a big scam.
is there any evidence that even the bible isn't just another big religion/government scam?
would we listen to putin or obama if they told us they have verified new holy writings?
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My frist email letter from my JW Dad. So sad...
by suavojr ini am in my early 30s and woke up to ttatt in late 2012. my dad just turned 65 in june!
wow, i never saw that being possible.. .
he just got himself a computer and was able to get internet in a remote location where he is serving as an elder with my mom (where the need is great) i was happy to see how he was able to send me a few notes saying hi and i was able to share some pictures of my wife and family, etc.. .
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Nice to know he has a computer...maybe he will access an informational website like this one.
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So how are elders going to be appointed again from now on?
by toto555 inso have we got any additional clarification since the initial announcement on this?
the change is almost 1 month away and we still don't know how this is going to work exactly?
so what's the deal?
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Yep, lostgeneration has it right.
Layers and layers of secretive manipulation. Plausible deniability while all the while pulling the strings. CO will appoint with the ORG's backing.
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Sole CHANNEL of communication?
by Batman89 inhas the gb ever explained exactly how they supposedly communicate with god and get new light or other "inspiration" for their "spiritual dog food"?.
do they all sit in a room together and hold hands and join one conciousness??.
do they fall asleep and go to the dream world and talk to jehovah there like the movie inception or something??.
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That would be JAMES BROWN!!!!
Oh, sorry, I thought you said SOUL channel of communication!!!
I got the fever!!!
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What was the Overall reaction from the world media ,to the Awake article ,may 22nd 1994 regarding "Youths Who Died Refusing Blood".
by smiddy ini , and my wife had probably left about 12 months prior to this magazine coming out , and i never at that time had any knowledge of it till many years later when i joined this site.. when i did see it , i was appalled that they could put out such an article , in a magazine they would distribute throughout the world .. to me it smacked of child abuse .
these were kids , who had no life experiences , who were far too young to make life or death choices of their own , were influenced by religous leaders who had their own agenda , and sadly by family , relatives and freinds who were indoctrinated by a man made religion that has its roots in america in the late 1800`s .. so my question is , did this episode of child abuse go under the radar of mainstream media ?
did it escape child protection agencies of the time ?.
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Funny that you should mention this particular magazine. I remember the reaction of several very well. I had been married for many years before the magazine came out and many of my friends were already having children. I wondered what their reaction would be so I asked a couple. Like typical born-in JW's, they considered the children martyrs that manifested faith in the resurrection and adherence to God's word. The party line was being towed. As for me, well, I too was appalled. Even without kids I looked at the magazine as a testament to how far te organization would go to demonstrate its impact on its members.
To this day I am appalled. It is commensurate with sacrificing them to Molech or Baal. There are many who believe that the blood doctrine will become a conscious matter. If that happens, the lives of these children will be even less valuable than they were when they gave them. Their memory will be tarnished as a "it didn't have to happen" issue.
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The elders are 'letting me fade'
by TableForOne ini attended my last meeting in january 2014, having realised that i'd been lied to for 20+ years (i'm now 43 y/o).
rumours spread of my 'apostasy'.. in may, cobe contacted me inviting me to a private meeting with elders at the kh.
(no mention of the meeting being a jc).
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Most absurd thing mentioned at District Convention, excuse me, Regional Convention
by Separation of Powers inso, the round of "regional" conventions has been going on for a few months now.
for those that attended, or those that got transcripts of the parts,.
what was the most absurd thing you heard at yours?.
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One Eyed Joe,
I recall the same demo with the young guys and "Satisfying the desire." I thought it was kind of a crack up....in circles that no one at Bethel mentions, the belief of some of the big wigs is that in the "new order" or "Paradise" everyone will be assigned where they will live just like when Jehovah assigned the Promised Land....So the demo is moot. This SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE DEMO>>>>
(Young kid) Hey, I wanted to live in the mountains!
(Eartly Prince) Sorry kid, all the mountain estates are already filled by "helpers" to the GB and Circuit Overseers under 70.
(Young kid) What about the beach then? Can I live on the beach?
(Earthly Prince) -stifling a laugh- Kid, look, you didn't pioneer, you didnt go to bethel, your record of faithful service as found in the new scrolls shows that you worked on a quick build once and helped with the Kingdom Hall cleaning and microphones. You'll take what your given.
(Young kid) Well, what about the beach?
(Earthly Prince) Look, the beach estates are filled with the young widows of former Governing Body members and members of the Service Committee and Legal Department. The former, because they sacrificed so much by being married to those men that they knew would end up going to heaven and deserve it. The latter, because they helped the organization survive the pedo scandals and kept the organization solvent.
(Young kid)-rolling his eyes- What about all that talk at the assembly of satisfying the desire of every living thing? I mean, I made it into Paradise and now you're telling me I have to live where I don't want to live?
(Earthly Prince)-a practiced stern look- Kid, let me ask you a question...Do you want to live or die?
(Young kid)-sheepishly- Live.
(Earthly Prince) Is your desire to live greater than your desire to reside in the mountains or by the beach?
(Young kid)- Of course.
(Earthly Prince)- Then your "desire" -finger quotes- is being satisfied.
(Young kid)- Well, I guess. -he hesitates, scratching his head- Where am I going to live then?
(Earthly Prince)-pulling out a notebook computer and accessing the "scrolls" as found on JW.org- You have been assigned to live over that hill. -he points-
(Young kid)- But....that's where the old garbage dump was!
(Earthly Prince) You know, you're right. It's there waiting to be transformed into a paradise. Maybe you should have thought about doing more back in the old system. All those people who sacrificed are getting the choicest lots, the best views, the prime real estate, THEIR desires are a lot more important than yours.
(Young kid)- walking away with his head down- Doesn't sound much like a Paradise for the rest of us.
(Earthly Prince) -perturbed- Excuse me, WHAT?!?
(Young kid) Nothing.
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Most absurd thing mentioned at District Convention, excuse me, Regional Convention
by Separation of Powers inso, the round of "regional" conventions has been going on for a few months now.
for those that attended, or those that got transcripts of the parts,.
what was the most absurd thing you heard at yours?.
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So, the round of "regional" conventions has been going on for a few months now. For those that attended, or those that got transcripts of the parts,
What was the most absurd thing you heard at yours?
I got to say, I heard every talk, give or take 3 or 4, ok maybe 5. But, the absolutely most absurd thing I heard has got to be the rehashing of the Overlapping Generation. Yes, we are all aware of it. But, we only read it in print. To hear a BIG WIG describe the absurdity of the belief and then hear the applause after his explanation was Orwellian to say the least.
I just folded my arms and rolled my eyes.
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